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steve, what do you think of this romney tax plan? >> it increases take-home pay, middle class family, $2,000 extra in their take-home pay, and more importantly it reduces the price of doing work, being productive and taking risks. lowering that price, lowering tax rates. that's the way to get the economy going. worked for kennedy, for reagan, worked in the early part of the last decade. it will work again. >> we have to do something. since the recovery began, by the way, june 2009, household incomes are down 5.7%. that's since the recovery. when you're in a recovery, incomes are supposed to go up. >> yeah. what's disstressing and concerning is, at this point i don't know what governor romney has in mind. he's been saying all along he'll reduce taxes and shows up in ohio -- >> reducing tax rates. >> he shows up and says don't expect a huge tax cut, because what he's doing is lowering deductions and exemptions. great. i wonder if somebody will get around to telling me what those deductions and exemptions are that he's going to lower. he's been running for president for seemingly
the politicalization of wall street right now, the ceos don't want to invest because they don't know about the tax cuts. but we have trillions of dollars that is ready to get into money flow. we need the money to get higher velocity and they're not doing it because they can't get a return on their investment. >> what's romney going to stay in the debate tomorrow to really articulate -- >> he's not going to be able to say those trillions can -- >> here's what romney said, to the extent that there's been any recovery at all, to the extent that there's been any economy growth at all, it's been -- whatever we have had has been completely funded -- remember what obama said, i'm going to build a new foundation. it's built on easy money and borrowing. >> the only argument, the only argument that romney and the republicans have is look how terrible things are, they're the america lose crowd. >> that's their only argument. >> so guess what, bright signs in the market you indicated today. bright signs in manufacturing. it couldn't possibly be because of good public policy. >> you realize this year's worse than l
tax cuts. you can't compare in the state of ohio where a new york times cbs poll shows mitt romney down by ten percentage points, president obama ahead on the economy, 6 in 10 voters, nearly 6 in 10, that is, said mitt romney's policies would favor the rich and mitt romney doesn't care about people like them. president obama's driving that message, going after mitt romney's predictions that he'll be tough on china saying that if you look at romney's record at bain capital, all that talk is fake. >> when you hear this newfound outrage, when you see these ads, these running problems seem to get tough on china, it seems a lot like that fox saying we need more secure chicken coops. i mean, it's just not credible. >> and larry, you can hear the confidence in president obama's voice because not only in ohio is he ahead, but in all of the major swing states president obama's got a lead right now. mitt romney's got to find a way to turn that around, turn it around in the debates, and maybe the tax cut issue that you're talking about will be one tool in that arsenal. back to you, larry. >>
and your taxes. >> unlike president obama, i will not raise tax on the middle class of america. >> i want to reform the tax code so it's simple, fair. >> the candidates' opinions couldn't be more different and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> their philosophy is if you don't are health insurance, don't get sick. >> now is the moment we can do something. and with your help, we will do something. >> cnbc's coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2012 presidential election begins now. >> tonight some of the most influential figures in the nation on the economy join us here on cnbc. >> we've got representative and hopeful ron paul with us. texas, from texas. he is of course outspoken about the federal reserve policies. robert reich is here with us tonight. also with us grover norquist. the man behind the no new taxes pledge so many republicans made. and bob lutz a former top auto executive. the auto bailout expected to be a big topic tonight. and we've got president of the aflcio. unions of course a major constituency. and roger altman. as you can see the lineup card is full. going
on the trail. it is the gift that keeps on giving. >> how they can justify. raising taxes in the middle class. it has been buried in the last four years. how in the lord's name. >> that is nodt a froidian slip. plus three stories that happen to break before the election. a leftist new york attorneyy general looking to bash banks and that is as phony as a $3 bill. also a judge strikes down pennsylvania's voter id law and the obama administration is telling companies it is okay to disregard the law when it comes to handing out pink slips in advance to big budget cuts. all three happening before the election. mitt romney has finally put meat on the bones of his tax reform idea. he floated the idea of a $17,000 cap on tax reform reduction. >> you could say everyone is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction. you can fill that bucket if you will and higher income people might have a lower number. >> this is brand new stuff. we have howard dean former vermont governor and candidate. and let's look at this for a second. what do you think? a $17,000 cap on tax deductions for everybody as a way of bein
, everybody. as howard mentioned, a big report about the tax components of the fiscal cliff and what the effects could be on american households. i want to make five basic points that we raised in that study. the fiscal cliff really is big. it would be more than $500 billion in a tax increase. this works out to a tax increase of more than 20%, which is very large. looking at whether this would be the largest tax increase in history. for the average household, that works out to about $3,500. someone who earns around $50,000, it would be somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,000. the second point is it affects virtually everybody. close to 90% of households would see their taxes go up. there are a few folks out there, primarily older seniors and citizens who do not have children who might not be affected, but the vast majority of american households would be affected by going off of the cliff. the first order for business is running through what the effects will be. those of you in the room have a handout that summarizes things. those of you at work and at home should be able to find thi
institute for a discussion on the scheduled tax increases the percent to hit in january, including the end of the bush era taxes, payroll tax holiday hikes and invested in come also. a new tax policies and to report says nothing is done. average marginal tax rates would go up by five percentage points on labor income, seven points on capital gains and more than 20 points on dividends. along with more than a trillion dollars in budget cuts. also starting january or known as the fiscal cliff. it should get under way in just a moment. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon, and welcome to the urban institute's first tuesday. my name is howard gleckman of the tax center blocks and we are here to discuss taxes in the fiscal cliff. as you all know, washington lives everything that happens here is the biggest or the worst were the most important. how many times for instance have you been told some politician is about to give the speech of his life until he gives the next speech. the tax armageddon has the potential to actually be a watershed in the fiscal policy. true it could be another opp
of ten year time frame we would manage the cut and spending and tax increases and in investments, we need do all three. we need to tax, cut, and invest in the source of our strength. i think that would have a huge effect. i think americans today feel in many ways like children of two divorced parents. i think it's a pal in the country in a lot of ways. it would be huge. if we got a grand bargain on energy how to exploit the boundary of -- i think the two together would have a huge impact. so the question is how close are we to that? and, you know, i have a saying about the middle east which applies to the american politics. all important politics happens the morning after the morning after. >> when is that? >> here i'm talking about the election. here i think the question really is i don't know how the election is going come out. i make no prediction. i ask myself if romney gets smashed, if he gets smashed, it would -- i happen to think the political problem in the country we have a center left party and we have a far right party. that is a structure problem. the republican party has gone
you're in the position to buy your business, you needed a tax cut then. i want to make sure the plumber, said the nurse, the firefighter, it the teacher, the young entrepreneur who does not have money, i want to give them a tax break now. not only did 98% of small businesses like less than to under $50,000. i also want to give them additional tax breaks because they are the drivers of the economy. >> we need to spread the wealth around. in other words, we're going to take joseph money, give it to signature obama and let him spread the wealth around. the whole premise behind the plans are class warfare, but spread the wealth around. i want small businesses that would receive an increase in their taxes. why would you want to increase anybody's taxes right now? these people are going to create jobs unless you take that money for him and spread the wealth around. i am not going to do that. >> number one, i want to cut taxes for 90 5% of americans. it is sure my friend and supporter warren buffett could afford to pay a low tax. in order to give taxes. then exxon mobil which made
could be accurate or not. what is the person saying there should not be a millionaire tax or should be. who is the special interest dominating that message point coming out and how does the voter get through it? i think one the most amazing thicks happening in the country when you look at the president number heys doing well. what's fascinated about the amount of money being spent by the cross roads and the entity for some reason the message is not coming through it's not compel fpg you look at the swing states that we were going to be remarkably close are going to trend toward tbhawm a way that somebody thinks to seem unless the debate set the presidential election. it's clear the spt heading toward a environment he has a advantage. romney is going to be exceptional. >> tune in. >> fiewn in and watch. let watch. >> i'm excited. >> talk about in next week in class. >> would you taunt the cross road different and you engage in more localized races congressional and senate how you choose your priorities since so you have a broader scope. >> yeah. that's a good question. we're focused on
romney's taxes shows, not all income is taxed the same. why how much you pay in taxes depends on how you make your money. four years ago this month, the economy was in a freefall. lehman brothers had collapsed and credit markets seized up. a.i.g. was rescued by the federal reserve. the tarp program spent billions bailing out banks, and the federal deposit insurance corporation helped save citigroup. sheila bair was among those making the decisions. she was the chairman of the fdic and has written about the financial crisis in a new book, "bull by the horns. " she join us tonight from the nasdaq. sheila, congratulations on the book. quite a read to relive those days and months four years ago. after all the billions of dollars spent and the millions of homes foreclosed on, you wrote, i wonder if we overreacted. you say the generosity of the response troubles you, why? >> the generosity of the banks. we clearly needed to do something. weeshtd have done more to get the homeowners restructured and clean up the banks balance sheet, by making them clean up the losss and clean up the balance she
we recommend that revenues be increased i ask by, for instance, by improving the tax collection, by entering into the privatization program in due course and should have happened and has not happened, when some cuts have to be made in programs that are probably some of the most expensive in the hold eurozone, that's what i mean by sticking to the measures, implementing but not necessarily sticking to the targets in terms of primary deficit number. >> okay, next. >> thank you, madam lagarde. and i am with china tv. my question is on the 2010 reform. you said it is now the authority can get the members needed for the quarter reform but for the governance reform, you still need more, at least about 10% to get it down. to some degree that is largely sitting on the united states. so won't imf put more pressure on the state u.s. congress to approve the change in the coming weeks and how confident are you that we're likely to see the completion of this reform before the annual meeting is at dover as the imf has plans? thanks. >> well, it's not just the united states. clearly there are
, for that matter, those two. to finance a big across the board tax cut but not tell us how. not what big across the board deductions he'll deny people in order to pay for it or even what taxes he's been paying himself over the years. or how he'll finance all those popular things in the president's health care plan once he kills the plan itself. lots of secrets. secrets because he himself has no earthly idea what the answers are. i'm joined by democratic strategist bob shrum and salon's joan walsh. first, however, we have two new national polls on the presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. b
of taxes and spending. it goes to governor clinton for a 2 minute question. it is asked by ann compton. >> governor clinton, can yo middle income families can be guaranteed a tax cut or what income level they can be guaraeed no tax increase. >> the tax increase figures in at $200,000 and above. >> they had their incomes go up while taxes down. middle class people defined as people with incomes as $52,000 and down had their incomes go down while th taxes went up in the reagan-bush years because of 6 increases in the payroll taxes. that is where it would trigger. >> there would be no tax increases below -- >> my plan, notwithstanding -- my plan igures in at family incomes of $200,000 and above andgive modest middlerelief to restore faespecially to people with incomes below in addition to that, the money i raise from upper monepeople, if they pay the same income on their income the same as american corporations do, they will give incentives back. i wt to give permant incentives back. a resource and development credit, a long term proposal for business and expansion. we have to have no mor
and tax policies to get small businesses funding, make sure we are open for business and we can get production and manufacturing back here and get people back to work. it is important to talk about that after a revision of the g.d.p. numbers in the second quarter down to 1.3 percent. that is below anemic. we are not out of the fiscal woods yet. >>neil: we talk about economic numbers. you preferred to the g.d.p. data. just today, congressman, we had surprisingly strong growth in private sector numbers that may or may not mirror what happens on friday, a gain of 162,000, but, all of this is on the same day a number of companies are were watching that things do not look good and there could be an earnings recession. what do you think is the real state of the economy right now and what mitt romney has in his position tonight? >>guest: the most important thing is mitt romney needs to show that the president and his previous budget that he has proposed with trillions of dollars in new taxes only does one thing: it grows the debt. it does not do anything if the deficit we have had. you giv
growth. if you have taxes going up in the united states and expenditures going down ultimately that has to happen if you are going to solve that math problem in a slow growth while. >> at the same in europe and the same everywhere. we all grew up with spending more money. we only have to do two things, spend more money to charge of the economy and spend less money in order to shrink the deficit. all goes to show whether you're a country or a company is when you get in trouble here options are reduced. and so this is not easy and of course the options have been reduced. you can't go out and have another stimulus and look at the consequences to the balance sheet as a result of what that will be. what you are going to have to do i think is you are going to have to not shrink -- not push austerity in the near term because that is the fiscal cliff then you will have to keep going on certain things and not the stimulus but not take away the punch bowl within the near term but you are going to have to convince the market and the lenders and galvanize the country that in the longer term you are
. david: also one of america's greatest living economists tom sowell will join us with his take on the tax debate we'll hear about tonight. lauren: we'll tell you what drove the markets today with the data download. stocks edged higher on stronger than expected economic reports. all three major indices closing in the green but well off of session highs. eight of the 10 s&p sectors posting gains. telecom and consumer discretionary were the top performers today. we saw fallback in energy as well as materials. those lagged. the payroll services firm, adp, said the economy added 162,000 private sector jobs last month. that topped estimates of 143,000. now the august number, that was revised down by 12,000 to 189,000. of course we have to look ahead to the big government jobs report to flesh this all out on friday morning. >>> the services sector that expanded at its fastest pace in six months in september boosted by a pickup in new orders. the institute for supply management nonmanufacturing index that looks at 18 services industries increased to 55.1 last month from 53.7 in august. david: all
. we have a sales tax in this country that has been raised from 16% to 18% to 21%. that has created a slight inflation issue. now, pensions are inflation linked. and this country in november has to increase pension abouts by inflation. so by raising 2.5 billion euro v.a.t., it will cost them 3.5 billion euro misincreased pension costs. so you can see the conundrum. they're enacting enormous amounts of austerity, but that's denting an economy which is already in recession. its second since 2008. and things are getting worse. 25% unemployment, a million up sold homes. and we haven't even talked about the banking crisis and the autonomous region, some of which including catalonia are looking trying to get some form of assembly. it is a toxic mix. >> imagine that there will be pressure on markets as this they think unfolds. we're also counting down to the wire here of course in the presidential election. and joining us on the set, bill richardson, former governor of new mexico. you're in town for the u.n. >> that's right. i was with a group of democrats and republicans yesterday at the
another $5 trillion on tax cuts that favor the very wealthy, that -- don't do, vote. vote. [cheers and applause] >> you stop when no idea. one thing he did not do in his first four years anything is going to do in the next four years is to raise taxes. is there anything that raising taxes will help grow the economy? his plan is to continue what he's done before. the status quo has not worked. we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> the yemeni president was in washington d.c. today to speak at the wilson's manner. mr. hadi took over the presidency in february after an uprising forced a previous president to step down after 33 years in power. security remains a major turning ament with president hadi offering to hold talks with al qaeda and other militant groups to take down their weapons. jane harman gives introductory remarks. >> do we have some more room for the president's party? let's see -- okay. good afternoon to welcome to the wilson center. i am jane harman, president and eeo. the wilson center, a living m
like medicare, you know, tax cuts for the rich, he has really been very forceful about contrasting his views on things with what he says are the views of the other side which is embracing the physician and the constituency who gets him in office. he doubled down and mobilizes his tools. he has tried to paint romney is an out of touch, pvate equity guy who would would not be one snowy white working-class person. i think the obama team realizes currently that there are some very offputting things about romney, which is all image. finally, we can't leave this without saying a word about republican performance. it has been designed, you might almost say. we sit down and try to optimize the things that you might say and raise concerns among independent voters. they probably couldn't have done much better. this, i think, reflects the way the republican party, to some extent has been captured by elements who are far away from the medium voter. and this type of approach to american society. it is far away from the political center. to some extent, delightfully honest about where today's gop is
of the unemployed and the poor. that is where a flat tax comes in. it allows attraction of the capital abroad. sam nunn was correct, you have to cut government spending. that has to happen, especially entitlements where you pay people not to work. there are other ways of bringing the debt down. cool ones. for example, how about a federal state, local, tax amnesty program? there are a lot of people in the underground economy that would be brought above ground with amnesty program. i estimate a federal, state and local tax amnesty program would raise about $800 billion in 90 days. you can also sell some assets off. camped person -- camp pendleton is 500 square miles in california. why not sell it? >>neil: my point, when you say it is too big to handle, you are missing the point, you cannot cut $16 trillion debt but you can boom your way from it. we are losing sight and what bill clinton learned in 1993, 1994, if you present a plan that looks credible like you want to reverse the direction, sometimes that creates a boom in and of itself and inspires confidence in the market that has little confidence
are jobs. i will be the only candidate advocating eliminating income tax, corporate tax, abolishing the irs and replacing that with one federal consumption tax. i embrace the fair tax. i think that is the answer to jobs. if the private sector does not create tens of millions of jobs, i did not know what it will take to create tens of millions of jobs. it is the entry to china. i see manufacturing jobs flocking back to the united states. are you hearing these things from these other two guys? no. they are arguing over who will spend more money on medicare. romney said he wants to increase spending for the military and balance the budget. it doesn't add up. i guess we believe in santa claus and the easter bunny and i do not think they are coming. host: gary johnson is with us and will add a third line for third party voters. we will get to your calls in just a couple of moments. what is the strategy for the rest of the election? guest: right now there is a lot of attention that is being drawn to what it is that i am saying. i'm being recognized for being at 6% nationally. i'll ask you an obvi
. they basically think that if we just spend another $5 trillion on tax cuts that favor the very wealthiest, then -- don't boo. vote. vote. vote. >> we got one new idea. one thing he did not do in his first four years, he said he's going to do in the next four years, which is to raise taxes. and is there anybody who thinks that raising taxes will help grow the economy? >> no! >> no, his plan is to continue what he has done before, the status quo has not worked. we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney meet in their first presidential debate. the news hour's jim lehrer moderates from the university of denver. watch and engage with c-span, including our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern, the debate at 9:00, and post-debate, your reactions, calls, and emails and tweets. follow our live coverage on c-span, c-span radio, and online at c-span.org. >> september 11, 2001, was a day that changed my life forever. it changed america's life. i'm going to go through a power point presen
on china? since when? >> we are back with talk about a tax. >> whether they should pay back of their paycheck to the city. sam ford has more on what to get back.t but i do not understand what is on in this place. >> i do not understand what is going on in this place. >> the council took up several e revenuegetting mor workers, since d.c. prohibited from taxing residents. new-ill would provide all to give back 4% of their salary. >> those dollars within our city. if you go to ask the workers, it "if you live in d.c.?" >> i live in maryland. i have been in maryland all of my life. of the city's 31,000 58% do not live in the city. one worker moved to maryland h his new wife. i was born in d.c. >> he was not at the hearing and those that were read council the riot act. >> we, of course, want to hear the public. do not affect our ability to people and retain them. >> in northwest washington, sam ford, abc 7 news. as it could as good be. and feeling more like summer around here. afteras more, coming up the break. and another showdown this weekend. one for the record book. [ mamale
no matter what. stuart: recent figures showed the number of people not paying federal income tax has spiked under president obama. 47% is a legitimate figure. and the latest fox news poll shows voters are fed up. when asked if all americans should be required to pay some kind of federal income tax, 79%, yes, they should. and joining us with americans for tax reform, maddie go through it for me fast. how did the spike happen? i believe there was a spike in the number of people not paying any federal income tax at all. >> right, we've got romney talking about this and the media saying that this is, you know, him insulting, inelegant, a problem talking about it, what it is a referendum on obama policies and the state of the economy. what we've seen are incomes falling and people have less income due to paying taxes on and getting more he deduction and less tax income liability. ahead of that, too, though, we've seen a lot more complexity introduced into the tax code, we've got deductions, if you fill out your own 1040 how difficult it is if you're not taking the standard deduction, what your t
out enough in debt, and enough taxes we have made changes that grows this economy, and that is why i am running for the united states senate. to change the want leadership in washington. we can change that. that is why i am running for the senate. i want to pass a balanced budget. i am not your usual politician. i'm not one of the good old boys pay ed i will make this tough decisions in the united states senate. i will roll up my sleeves, work hard for you, and i will fight for you. >> now the opening statement from bob kerrey. >> thank you. i love nebraska. i always have and i always will. i was born here in lincoln. i left nebraska and went to war and came home, and i recovered from illness in the lincoln. i started a business that employed more than 700 people. i served as your governor, balancing our budget, and i left after four years and went back to business. i served as your son that -- as your senator, and again we balance our budget. i am a candidate for congress for the senate because congress needs to change, and i will fight to make that happen. i have never had and neve
increasingly stepped up to support early childhood to also step up to the tax-writing committee and point out all of the tax loopholes we can close and all of the tax increases that were in absolutely liable the will provide the revenue that we need to provide the early childhood system with our children and families deserve. i think that is doable. >> join me in saying thank you to all of the speakers today to the [applause] thank you. we have our marching orders not. thank you to the kec foundation and c-span for joining us today. br adjourned. have a good afternoon. [inaudible conversations] >>> the potomac institute for policy studies at arlington va recently held a discussion on supply chain risks posed to the nation's cyberinfrastructure. government officials overseeing cybersecurity and the former acting senior director for cyberspace at the national security council were among the speakers at this to our event. >> ladies and gentlemen, if i could have your attention, please. my name is mike swetnam and it is my distinct honor and privilege to welcome here today for the seminar on the
needs in missouri? would you work with the general assembly on a plan for a tax increase to raise revenue for transportation? would you help provide the leadership in pushing for a vote to raise needed revenue for transportation? >> well, we need to make better use of the tax dollars with god. i don't, you know, i guess there was a plan to expand on 70 and expand the interchanges and put in toll roads, turnout over to contractors and let them run it. i'm not sure that's the thing we should do first, you know, we have to maintain the roads we've got an obviously maintain the bridge is. but you know, keep the tax, the gas tax the way it is now and make more efficient use of the money we've got. maybe contract out more, more things. if you give the contractors a bonus for finishing early, that seems to work. so things like that we would do. >> jay nixon. >> thank you. we have a long history in this area and our state. we have a very large system. so as i came in, with the doing a couple things and are now in the process of implementing a sumo foer. the first was to expand the capacit
%. personal earnings after taxes per capita have gone up almost $3,000 in these 4 years. in 1980 -- or 1979, a person with a fixed income of $8,000 was $500 above the poverty line, and this maybe explains why there are the numbers still in poverty. by 1980 that same person was $500 below the poverty line. we have restored much of our economy. with regard to business investment, it is higher than it has been since 1949. so, there seems to be no shortage of investment capital. we have, as i said, cut the taxes, but we have reduced inflation, and for 2 years now it has stayed down there, not at double digit, but in the range of 4 or below. we believe that we had also promised that we would make our country more secure. yes, we have an increase in the defense budget. but back then we had planes that couldn't fly for lack of spare parts or pilots. we had navy vessels that couldn't leave harbor because of lack of crew or, again, lack of spare parts. today we're well on our way to a 600-ship navy. we have 543 at present. we have -- our military, the morale is high. i think the people should unders
to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 trillion tax cut. that's according to the tax policy center. they figured it out. even when romney gives specifics he doesn't answer the questions. e we still don't know how he plans to pay for the tax cuts without hurting the middle class. paul ryan is sticking to his reason for not giving any specifics to chris wallace on
are no longer eligible for the tax status. but 49 percent is not found in a law or regulation. it has simply been sort of rule of thumb for the agency. but to the irs, as anybody knows who has followed these groups, has not been very active in this area. so this is a problem yet unsolved. >> i will ask gary take you up the video because i want to play just the beginning of it that illustrate what we see as a problem in the way it was journalism is a covering the explosion of money. grease a story that could crush tries to say their is a lot of money here it and tries to report on finding secrets . in order to illustrate it runs the ads full screen and essentially journalism in that story ostensibly about money is magnifying the deceptive power of the ads. if you can take it back to the beginning of that video, i don't know if you can't, we have done an experiment to find out what is the difference between the story that is running with the ads all but full screen in the background and the story when you put a multiple matrix of. you put nine or ten screens of adds up as you air the same stor
and a tax cut. that was done with the republican governor, is split between republicans and democrats in the house and senate. it was a bipartisan effort. we got it done for texas. road. been on the i really do not know. >> mr. sadler, a democrat has not won a statewide office in texas since 1994. do you consider this an uphill battle? >> for an open senate seat, it is always a battle, and should be, and needs to be, regardless of the party. i understand we have not elected a democrat in a long time. >> let's go to mr. cruz. he said the day after you beat lt. governor dewhurst, he said he would run scared for the general election. but you have agreed to this and what other debt -- televised debate. you criticized governor dewhurst for having almost 40 candidate forms up to the primary, but are you planning its eighth and coasting? safe and coasting? >> we have been crisscrossing the state of texas. we have been all over the state, literally hundreds of dop's and vfw halls and enny's talking with voters in every part of the state. that is what we are doing between now and election day.
loophole and exploit every tax break in the books. and i think he should include this in his job application. a new report shows mitt romney avoided paying big taxes on a trust fund he set up on his children's inheritance. he did it in a trust fund called, i dilg it. i'm serious. that's what it's called. i dig it. now, you may not dig it but governor romney certainly did. saving hundreds and thousands of taxes according to bloomberg. that's the same kind of creative accounting that allowed him to get a 14.1% tax rate. and now his running mate says, it just doesn't benefit america. >> this money creates jobs so you'll want to have more capital that goes to more businesses, especially small businesses like this one so more people and what we learned about mitt romney and his tax returns, he's a successful businessman. that's a good thing. >> ah, patriotism. this money creates jobs. prove it. show me one job, just one, that was created by romney paying less in taxes. the truth is, governor, governor romney's tax policies are bad for america. they are geared to the super rich. they h
romney's going to race taxes on the middle class. now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of a assumptions that the romney campaign has rejected. also puts harvey rosen, you can also generate enough growth to avoid a middle class tax increase. there are a loft credible folks saying something else. it's a fact he's going to raise middle class tax. >> the obama campaign, david plouffe is a chris christie of the campaign saying their campaign is built on a tripod of lies and the president has said sometimes they just make things up. >> last i checked, isn't this called politics? you have lying all the time in politics. it is our responsibility to call folks out on it. on my tv 1 show, i have a segment called the biggest damn lie. >> that's got to be a very tough line to draw. >> some lies are much bigger than the others. you have to call folks out on it. here's the problem i have when it comes to a debate. when you hear lies on a debate, they should be called on out on the spot. when you hear
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